Mr Fox
07-07-2008, 10:54 AM
When i did the first install i was extremely dissapointed with Realfeel and still dont know what the fuss is. To be honest i drive and somewhere out there is a car but im not attached to it at all with realfeel.
I did some research and found that we all use the same ffb engine, GTL, GTR, GTR2, race07 and rfactor are all the same, its just that all the other ones are much more refined for that application.
rFactors biggest draw card is its biggest downfall aswell. The large variety of mods has made it hard to come up to the standards of the FFB in the above titles.
So i decided to concentrate and learn Leo FFB and try to understand all the variations. Unfortunatley i still cant get the smaller cars to feel the way i want but overall im happy with the end result.
Im trying to give the 900 degrees a run aswell but i think my limit is 720.
ps, running a higher degrees of rotation and you will want to have variable wheel lock ingame. for 720 i use around 30 lock to lock ingame. this option is available in the "upgades menu" for each car.
Just for reference if your going to run 900 degrees you need to change your controller file in your userdata folder: C:\HistoricGT\UserData\glen73
In there you will see this line :
Steering Wheel Range="900" // Degrees of rotation of in-game steering wheel
By default it will be set to "270" IIRC
You will also have to set your wheel in the Control Panel/Game Controllers and set that to 900 degrees so it all matches otherwise it will be hard to drive. Also untick all the boxes there except for "enable FFB" and i have that at 100%
nothing else is ticked, that is very important!
Ingame (rfactor) i have,
control type = wheel
FFB level = Low (anything else is just canned effects)
FFB strength -100 (+100 if anything else other than logitech wheels)
Ok so now you will have download leo ffb
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Leo%27s%20FFB%20plugin
extract and drop into C:\HistoricGT\Plugins
then open LeoFFB configurationsettings,
Cortina settings
copy and paste below
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30.0 Front Wheel lock angle, degrees (max deflection to one side from straight on)
0.725 Front wheel distance to centerline (half the front wheel track) in metres, from .pm file
1.250 Front axle distance to body reference point (about half the wheel base) in metres, from .pm file
6.5 Relative strength of FFB effects
6.0 Aligning moment curve shape / feeling of tyre losing grip. Lower numbers are duller, range 1.0 .. 10
0.99 Negative aligning moment parameter for high slip angles, range 0.0 ... 1.0
8.14 Slip angle where aligning moment reverses direction - typically between 8 and 15 degrees
0.0 Caster (dimetionless)
0.0 Camber ratio (not degrees!)
3.5 Road bumps feeling on the wheel
11500.0 maximum FFB force for stationary and low speed effects
10.0 stiffness of stationary wheels
1.5 wheel rubber hardness (1..5)
8.0 how quickly static forces drop off when rolling
Accurate pneumatic trail and stationary tyre forces simulation
These default settings were tested on default rFactor BMW Formula 1
(c)2007 Leo Bodnar
This software is for end users only.
Use, bundling or referenceing by hardware manufacturers is prohibited.
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this may not be everyones cup of tea, it just gives an option if your like me and were not happy with the real feel settings.
I did some research and found that we all use the same ffb engine, GTL, GTR, GTR2, race07 and rfactor are all the same, its just that all the other ones are much more refined for that application.
rFactors biggest draw card is its biggest downfall aswell. The large variety of mods has made it hard to come up to the standards of the FFB in the above titles.
So i decided to concentrate and learn Leo FFB and try to understand all the variations. Unfortunatley i still cant get the smaller cars to feel the way i want but overall im happy with the end result.
Im trying to give the 900 degrees a run aswell but i think my limit is 720.
ps, running a higher degrees of rotation and you will want to have variable wheel lock ingame. for 720 i use around 30 lock to lock ingame. this option is available in the "upgades menu" for each car.
Just for reference if your going to run 900 degrees you need to change your controller file in your userdata folder: C:\HistoricGT\UserData\glen73
In there you will see this line :
Steering Wheel Range="900" // Degrees of rotation of in-game steering wheel
By default it will be set to "270" IIRC
You will also have to set your wheel in the Control Panel/Game Controllers and set that to 900 degrees so it all matches otherwise it will be hard to drive. Also untick all the boxes there except for "enable FFB" and i have that at 100%
nothing else is ticked, that is very important!
Ingame (rfactor) i have,
control type = wheel
FFB level = Low (anything else is just canned effects)
FFB strength -100 (+100 if anything else other than logitech wheels)
Ok so now you will have download leo ffb
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Leo%27s%20FFB%20plugin
extract and drop into C:\HistoricGT\Plugins
then open LeoFFB configurationsettings,
Cortina settings
copy and paste below
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
30.0 Front Wheel lock angle, degrees (max deflection to one side from straight on)
0.725 Front wheel distance to centerline (half the front wheel track) in metres, from .pm file
1.250 Front axle distance to body reference point (about half the wheel base) in metres, from .pm file
6.5 Relative strength of FFB effects
6.0 Aligning moment curve shape / feeling of tyre losing grip. Lower numbers are duller, range 1.0 .. 10
0.99 Negative aligning moment parameter for high slip angles, range 0.0 ... 1.0
8.14 Slip angle where aligning moment reverses direction - typically between 8 and 15 degrees
0.0 Caster (dimetionless)
0.0 Camber ratio (not degrees!)
3.5 Road bumps feeling on the wheel
11500.0 maximum FFB force for stationary and low speed effects
10.0 stiffness of stationary wheels
1.5 wheel rubber hardness (1..5)
8.0 how quickly static forces drop off when rolling
Accurate pneumatic trail and stationary tyre forces simulation
These default settings were tested on default rFactor BMW Formula 1
(c)2007 Leo Bodnar
This software is for end users only.
Use, bundling or referenceing by hardware manufacturers is prohibited.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this may not be everyones cup of tea, it just gives an option if your like me and were not happy with the real feel settings.