Substitute Drivers Thread: Season 9

[Webby]

Hi Guys

The purpose of the Substitute Drivers thread is for Dev League drivers to register their interest in racing in particular Champ League Race. This is only available to Dev League drivers who are currently in the Top 8 of the Dev League Championship (and due to us starting a new season here, Dev League Drivers who finished in the Top 8 of the Dev League last season).

All you have to do is post a reply here with the following information:

Driver: Driver Name
Round: Round Number
Team: Team You Are Looking To Sub For

This does not gaurantee you entry onto the grid, but, if slots are available on the night, then a starting spot will be granted in order of who nominated themselves first. If you don't know what team you're looking to sub and are just looking for any old drive, just put "any" as the team of choice.

This is a seperate system to the Test & Reserve Driver system, but remember that Test & Reserve drivers get first pick of the teams they are chosen to represent in the event of an absence.

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: Round 1 (Australia)
Team: Any

[Chirpin]

Driver: Chirpin
Round: Round 1 (Australia)
Team: Any

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: Round 2 (Malaysia)
Team: Ferrari (Car 2)

Allyc4t will be unable to race due to computer issues and has asked me to sub for him.

[Chirpin]

Driver: Chirpin
Round: Round 2 (Malaysia)
Team: Williams (Rosberg, Jester asked me to fill in for Rotate over msn)

[Chirpin]

Driver: Chirpin
Round: Round 3 (Bahrain)
Team: Williams (Need Jester to confirm this in the related thread, but he hired me as a test driver and asked me to replace him for Bahrain ;))

[Wrinkles]

Driver: Wrinkles
Dev Series any Spot that may come up

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: Round 3 (Bahrain)
Team: Renault (If No Objections)

[Christopheraser]

Driver: christopheraser
Round: Round 3 (Bahrain-Dev)
Team: Williams

[Webby]

Driver: christopheraser
Round: Round 3 (Bahrain-Dev)
Team: Williams

Chris, as a rule, we don't let Champ drivers drive Dev, so I don't know if you'll be able to race.

[Christopheraser]

Chris, as a rule, we don't let Champ drivers drive Dev, so I don't know if you'll be able to race.

I thought this was the rule.....

Drivers in the Development Series may source replacements from anywhere outside of the
top 8 in the F1A Championship standings. Substitutes for the Development Series may also
be sourced from outside the F1A league so long as these drivers fit locale and internet speed
requirements. Temporary drivers may be subject to a test session in the F1A Server to ensure they understand the rules before the race.

Drivers outside the top 8 of the F1A Championship Series may race in the F1A Development
Series only if they are legitimately unable to race in a F1A Championship race. This is subject
to seat availability for the F1A Development Series.

http://f1a-league.com/files/F1A%20Season%209%20Rules%20v1.0.pdf
Taken from 1.6a

[Webby]

I thought this was the rule.....

Drivers in the Development Series may source replacements from anywhere outside of the
top 8 in the F1A Championship standings. Substitutes for the Development Series may also
be sourced from outside the F1A league so long as these drivers fit locale and internet speed
requirements. Temporary drivers may be subject to a test session in the F1A Server to ensure they understand the rules before the race.

Drivers outside the top 8 of the F1A Championship Series may race in the F1A Development
Series only if they are legitimately unable to race in a F1A Championship race. This is subject
to seat availability for the F1A Development Series.

http://f1a-league.com/files/F1A%20Season%209%20Rules%20v1.0.pdf
Taken from 1.6a

Subject to admin approval, because for us we have to make sure it's not going to impact on that championship. By definition, Champ League drivers are faster than Dev League drivers. No one from Dev would be capable of going into the Championship series and challenging for podiums and wins. And yet, reverse that situation and Champ drivers are more than capable of winning Dev races purely because the pace is like one and half to two seconds slower. Therefore, it really does stand to reason that it could effect the result of the Championship.

So we have to make assessment and make a call keeping these things in mind.

[Christopheraser]

Subject to admin approval, because for us we have to make sure it's not going to impact on that championship. By definition, Champ League drivers are faster than Dev League drivers. No one from Dev would be capable of going into the Championship series and challenging for podiums and wins. And yet, reverse that situation and Champ drivers are more than capable of winning Dev races purely because the pace is like one and half to two seconds slower. Therefore, it really does stand to reason that it could effect the result of the Championship.

So we have to make assessment and make a call keeping these things in mind.

Well can that be made quickly? I am going out in the next half an hour and wont be home till an hour before the qual. I would like to know if I am racing or not before I leave, otherwise I won't rush home.

Seems like you are making this hard for me Webby. I would have thought more drivers on the grid at any race would be a good thing. I fulfil every requirement to race tonight. It also seems a little unfair that you are able to run in every race we have here as long as you stay in the top eight of the dev league. Dev league drivers are able to have an affect on my races, some which are quite fast like you and Zvook. Again seems unfair I am not able to be involved in your races. Of course I will affect the outcome, but it just seems ridiculous to exclude me on that basis.

For what it's worth I think I will be way off the pace tonight anyway. I just want to race, that’s why I contribute to this league.

[Webby]

Well can that be made quickly? I am going out in the next half an hour and wont be home till an hour before the qual. I would like to know if I am racing or not before I leave, otherwise I won't rush home.

Seems like you are making this hard for me Webby. I would have thought more drivers on the grid at any race would be a good thing. I fulfil every requirement to race tonight. It also seems a litte unfair that you are able to run in every race we have here as long as you stay in the top eight of the dev league. Dev league drivers are able to have an affect on my races, but you don't seem so keen for me to have an affect on yours.

For what it's worth I think I will be way off the pace tonight anyway. I just want to race, that’s why I contribute to this league.

Chris, I'm not making this deliberately hard for you, I'm looking out for the best interest of the series, which as an Admin, is my job. So please don;t make this out like I'm being difficult, because it's not the case, because it's better for me to have this discussion with you here now, then argue about it on the server later on.

But, you know what? Last thing we need is an argument. Race tonight, have fun.

[Christopheraser]

Chris, I'm not making this deliberately hard for you, I'm looking out for the best interest of the series, which as an Admin, is my job. So please don;t make this out like I'm being difficult, because it's not the case, because it's better for me to have this discussion with you here now, then argue about it on the server later on.

But, you know what? Last thing we need is an argument. Race tonight, have fun.

Maybe you need to ease off a bit on the whole control thing. I'd say thanks but since it seems like you are letting me race on bad terms you can stick it.

[Webby]

Maybe you need to ease off a bit on the whole control thing. I'd say thanks but since it seems like you are letting me race on bad terms you can stick it.

It's not a control thing, look, Chris, Champ League drivers racing Dev is not something that happens often at all - so it's not something that there is a standard understanding on - my first post where I noted "I don't know" was because it would need to be decided by f15active if it was OK, and because I knew he wasn't online, I just made a quick note of it so that you didn't show up tonight and be like "wait, what?" if the question was raised by him. I'm sure it would have been OK, you've been allowed to do it before, all I was noting was that it would need to be approved, but not by me, by f15.

And it's not on bad terms at all, and it will still need to be OK'd by f15, maybe I was a little sarcastic, but seriously, we're amongst friends here I thought? Obviously not.

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: Round 6 (Monaco)
Team: Ferrari (If Dizzo hasn't found a Ally-replacement-c4t, else I'll drive a Honda)

[Archer]

Long as know one had a problem i would like to drive the Canadian GP Dev leauge in the 2nd Ferrari seat. Only looking at this race at this stage.

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: 7 (Canada)
Team: Ferrari (Unless requested for third driver duties at McLaren)

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: 8 (France)
Team: Ferrari, or if required to sub for f15active or Borgy41, McLaren.

[Dizzo]

There's a Ferrari second seat available for tonights Champ British GP. Probably only have to turn up and finish the race within 75% to score points.

[mr sledge]

I am keen to fill in tonight.

[Dizzo]

Cool see ya soon. Champ league start time is alot earlier than the Dev league. :)

[Webby]

I am keen to fill in tonight.

FYI

1.6a Temporary Replacements
Temporary driver changes between teams within the F1A Championship are not allowed, although teams are allowed to source other drivers to substitute for them if they are unable to attend. The driver selected must be in the current top 8 drivers in the F1A Development Series point standings.

Drivers in the top 8 of the F1A Development Series point standings may declare their availability to race on the forum in the lead up to the F1A Championship race and are assigned to vacant seats when and if they become available.

Drivers in the Development Series may source replacements from anywhere outside of the top 8 in the F1A Championship standings. Substitutes for the Development Series may also be sourced from outside the F1A league so long as these drivers fit locale and internet speed requirements. Temporary drivers may be subject to a test session in the F1A Server to ensure they understand the rules before the race.

Drivers outside the top 8 of the F1A Championship Series may race in the F1A Development Series only if they are legitimately unable to race in a F1A Championship race. This is subject to seat availability for the F1A Development Series.

[Allyc4t]

Would like to sub in for tonights race if possible?

[Webby]

Would like to sub in for tonights race if possible?

Within the rules, so yeah, go nuts :P

[Allyc4t]

yeeew party!

[mr sledge]

Can I sub for the German GP?

[Ra`]

I registered my interest in the other section. Happy to sub for either league. You do need back markers don't you? ;-)

[Webby]

Can I sub for the German GP?

You're now in the top eight, so yes, you can register to sub.

[Webby]

I registered my interest in the other section. Happy to sub for either league. You do need back markers don't you? ;-)

You'll have to choose one mate, Champ or Dev, you can't do both at this stage :P

[Ra`]

Dev league it is... although Sunday nights suit me better. Lets lock it in as Dev. Now which team will I be apart of?

[mr sledge]

You're now in the top eight, so yes, you can register to sub.
Sweet, I'll see you then!

[Joshua Reynolds]

I will probably be able to drive in Champ so I am putting my hand up to sub, did Dizzo say he was not racing Germany maybe if he wants me to drive for him.

[f15active]

Dev league it is... although Sunday nights suit me better. Lets lock it in as Dev. Now which team will I be apart of?

Check out the first post, I have updated the Registered drivers lists and the teams lists, so you can see which teams are available. ;)

[JesterF1]

just putting my hand up early for a run at Valencia in the champ series. Never raced that track before so when it comes round, if you need a fill in, let me know :-)

[f15active]

You would need to be registered in order to do that. Dev League drivers could technically source replacements from outside the registered drivers list like yourself currently, but you are also still in the top 8 for Champ points...so it will come down to whether you're still top 8 by Valencia.

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: Germany
Team: McLaren (if Borgy is absent again, which is likely, else I'll find another empty seat)

[mr sledge]

Driver: Mr Sledge
Round: Germany
Team: STR or any available seat

[Chirpin]

Driver: Chirpin
Round: Germany
Team: BMW-Sauber

[Joshua Reynolds]

Driver: J Reynolds
Round: Germany
Team: Toyota
Series: Champion

[JesterF1]

Series: Champion

dreamin' ... lol :p

[Webby]

Due to Borgy being back, I need to do one of these now :P

Driver: Webby
Round: 11 (Hungary)
Team: Williams

[mr sledge]

Driver: Mr Sledge
Round: 11 Hungary
Team: STR or whatever

[Joshua Reynolds]

Driver: J Reynolds
Round: Germany to Hungary
Team: Toyota
Series: Champion Yes Champion

Thanks F15 updated

[f15active]

Couldn't be bothered changing 'Germany' to 'Hungary'? :p

[Allyc4t]

subbing in tonight.. dono what car yet kthxbai

[mr sledge]

Driver: Mr Sledge
Round: 12 Valencia
Team: STR or whatever

[travyd]

Driver: Trav D'Souza
Round: 13 Spa
Team: any :)

[mr sledge]

Driver: Mr Sledge
Round: 13 Spa
Team: STR or whatever

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: 13 (Spa)
Team: If not McLaren, something else available!

[M1N1K0B3]

I think its too late to sub in for a dev race?

[Webby]

Driver: Webby
Round: 15 (Singapore)
Team: McLaren (if f15 or Borgy don't show) failing that, Red Bull.

[Allyc4t]

Driver: Allyc4t
Round: Fuji (main series)
Team: Anything available

[Webby]

Since I'm not in Sydney this weekend being silly, I'll be subbing in tonights race. If not for McLaren, then in another car takes my fancy for the evening :)

Driver: Webby
Round: 17 - China
Team: McLaren, or another free car if it's unavailable.

[lenny555]

Can i participate in the final race?

[Webby]

One final burn in Champ tonight as a Dev series driver. McLaren if f15 or Borgy are absentee-o, failing that, any other car that spikes my fancy and is available.