FIA seeking standardised engines from 2010

[EAO_CrystaLM]

Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has invited tenders for a third party supplier of engines and transmission systems to be used by competitors in the 2010, 2011 and 2012 world championships.

However, existing teams and engine suppliers could still be allowed to build their own engines, providing they are to the same standardised design specified by the third party supplier.

The move to a single engine is one of several ideas being proposed by the FIA as a means of further reducing costs and increasing competitiveness in the sport, which already has a freeze on engine development.


I think a single engine would destory what is the most competitive motorsport in the world .

If it were like V8 supercars how theres a ford engine & a holden engine which the teams can build them self but have to keep to a blue print i think would be pretty good for the sport cause v8 supercars are so close to one another , it would cut the cost knowing they dont need to find more speed out of the engine & knowing the all the details required to build an identical engine to the other teams . but in saying all this would the engine still be a ferrari engine or would it be more of a Home brand motor which u get from woolworths

[Allyc4t]

I will not watch if everything is standardised because it WON'T be formula 1 then, so WD Max & Bernie if you do it you will lose a lot of fans and even more respect that is evidently gone from many other rule changes

[Webber]

I just don't see how they think they will keep suppliers such as Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault, Toyota, Honda and BMW if they make all the engines the same. These companies are in F1 because it is a business to them. Their goal is to show to the word that their engine is superior - so invest in their company by buying a car or becoming a share holder. If all the cars are exactly the same, no engine supplier will have the ability to market their engine over anybody elses. Bernie and Max are trying to ruin the sport - sadly, they're successfully doing it.

[EAO_CrystaLM]

im all for most things they want in cars to be the same , but i think making all the motors like 1 brand just wont work .

but i rekon gr ratios could be a way to go v8 supercars have 5 choices in gr box ratios , dont see why F1 couldnt have that lease u would know they could do 100km 1st gr 150 2nd gr 3rd gr 200 etc

[EAO_CrystaLM]

will be a very hot topic in the next 6months

i rekon a 1 brand engine will destroy F1 but i rekon a set gr ratio for all cars at each track or have 5 gr box rations to choose from like v8 supercars

[JesterF1]

i dont like anything standardised ... whats the point of F1 like this, its just turning in CART or any other series. uniqueness is what makes it unique :)

[EAO_CrystaLM]

if u leave a championship the same for too long people get bored , so there trying to move with the times to keep F1 at the top of motorsport which i understand

more & more lately people saying there getting sick of knowing which 2 teams will be in front 4 spots &knowing which teams will be last , thats not competitive motorsport thats whoever has most money wins

[JesterF1]

how is standardising everything keeping F1 at the top of motorsport? thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard ...

[Webber]

more & more lately people saying there getting sick of knowing which 2 teams will be in front 4 spots &knowing which teams will be last , thats not competitive motorsport thats whoever has most money wins

Considering the result of last years championship - as well as the closeness of this years, how can that not be competative? Sure, Mclaren and Ferrari will always be at the top. They've earned that position through time. Renault managed to get to the top after not really challenging BAR and Ferrari in 2004. If they could do it, why do the FIA give no belief in Toyota, Red Bull or Renault again?

[EAO_CrystaLM]

how is standardising everything keeping F1 at the top of motorsport? thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard ...

changing one thing isnt standardising jester , we know u dont like change.

webber u aint forking out 100millions of dollars to win a championship they are. FIA are thinking about the ridiculous amounts of money spending in a team & the global credit crunch crisis going on the bigger picture

major car companies are closing down car factory's cause profits are down world wide

[JesterF1]

if i didnt like change, i wouldnt re-design the website every season ...

my problem is that the FIA are parenting these motoring giants, dictating how much they spend, when it should be up to themselves how much they can afford. this is just shifting the responsibility and its stupid, the teams should be looking for ways to be smarter with their money rather than just spending it.

F1 is a massive management task, managing money is one of those things which it seems now they are incapable of doing ... except maybe Renault.

[Webber]

webber u aint forking out 100millions of dollars to win a championship they are. FIA are thinking about the ridiculous amounts of money spending in a team & the global credit crunch crisis going on the bigger picture

If money is such an issue in F1 these days, was the $100'000'000 they fined McLaren last year excessive? Maybe the $40'000'000 Raikkonen is on is also excessive? If they want to change the sport for financial reasons, good on them - but do they have to ruin it? There once was a time where they made money out of the sport, why did it change? Why did money have to start getting thrown around just to please designers, sponsors and drivers?

[Webber]

F1 is a massive management task, managing money is one of those things which it seems now they are incapable of doing ... except maybe Renault.

Just from ITV..

"Despite the introduction of measures intended to cut costs, such as the requirement that engines are used for two races, the combined costs of all UK-based F1 teams rose by £22.3m to £573.7m in 2006.

This is made all the more surprising by the fact that Force India’s costs could not be included in the 2006 total since the team's accounts have still not been filed.

Its 2005 costs came to £47.9m and are likely to have increased since then.

The teams’ revenues did not increase in line with the costs and remarkably the only UK-based outfit to make a profit in 2006 was Red Bull Racing.

Even its £744,000 after-tax profit was only achieved after its owner Red Bull poured in £85.6m during the year.

And F1’s drive eastwards, with this weekend’s inaugural race in Singapore and new grands prix in Abu Dhabi and South Korea to follow over the next two years, isn’t perhaps the best direction to help boost team finances."

[Milky]

Crystal, if I wanted to watch a series that all had the same engines, same cars, same everything I would watch GP2.

The idea of this standardizing isnt to keep f1 at the top of motorsport, it is to cut the cost of running an f1 team so that teams like Williams and Red Bull can have a chance to get to the front without spending the same amount of money as teams like Ferrari and Mclaren.

I don't like the standard engine performance idea, I always liked formula one because all the teams were different and each was unique. Each car would do better at some tracks and worse at others.

The standard tire idea was a good idea but so far that is about the only good idea the FIA has had in a long while.

In my opinion this idea of making all the engines perform the same is the FIA trying to make the racing closer and more exciting for the fans but I don't think the way the FIA is approaching the idea is the correct one.

I do like GP2 because the racing is close and fun to watch, but I am not saying f1 should be exactly the same as GP2. Gp2 cars were designed so that the cars can race closely by looking at how the aero can effect the car behind it. The only problem with this idea is that all the F1 teams design their cars in different ways.

[f15active]

The idea of this standardizing isnt to keep f1 at the top of motorsport, it is to cut the cost of running an f1 team so that teams like Williams and Red Bull can have a chance to get to the front without spending the same amount of money as teams like Ferrari and Mclaren.


Thats not the idea at all. The standardisation of engine components is to save costs not make racing more competitive and its going to be force fed (or already has in this case) by Mosley and the FIA to the teams with the fears of the deteriorating World economy. KERS has already costs the teams millions upon millions and is only going to widen the performance gap next season.